If a person has been having frequent nose bleeds, it is most likely caused by an exposed blood vessel in their nose. Even if the nose is not bleeding at the time, it is cauterized to prevent future bleeding. The different methods of cauterization include burning the affected area with acid, hot metal, lasers, or silver nitrate. Such a procedure is naturally quite painful. Sometimes liquid nitrogen is used as a less painful alternative, though it is less effective. In the few countries that permit the use of cocaine for medicinal purposes, it is occasionally used topically to make this procedure less uncomfortable, cocaine being the only local anesthetic which also produces vasoconstriction, making it ideal for controlling nosebleeds.
- Wikipedia, “Cauterization“
I’ve been having frequent nose bleeds my whole life, as best I can recall. I finally went in to an ENT this morning to get the sucker cauterized. They don’t use cocaine for it around here, or lasers, or hot metal, or acid. They do sometimes use electric cauterization, but my ENT starts with silver nitrate and goes from there. The silver nitrate comes on a stick and the thing looks exactly like one of those big fireplace matches. But they don’t light it. The Wikipedia article says that they wet it, then rub it around in there. It also says that the stick is called a “lunar caustic”, which sounds pretty cool. You can buy these sticks on Amazon. These wouldn’t be a lot of fun at home, I don’t believe. I didn’t notice my ENT wetting it, but she might have. But let me back up.
This was the first time I’ve seen this (or any) ENT, so she wanted to get a good look up in the old nose. She sprayed up in there with some numbing stuff, which tasted extremely bitter as it came out the back of my nose into my throat, then let that sit there for five or ten minutes. While she was rummaging around in a drawer for something, I saw she had one of those “head mirrors” in there. I chuckled at that, since I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those in real life before. Check out the Straight Dope column on the subject, from 1993:
Just about all doctors used head mirrors at one time and they became, along with the stethoscope, one of the symbols of the profession. But they could be a bit of a hassle to use and they did make you look like a space alien, so today many doctors prefer a penlight or other examining device. Some ENT (ear-nose-throat) specialists still use head mirrors, though, so look one up if you get nostalgic.
Fifteen years later and it’s still true. Though to be honest, she never put on the head mirror, it just sat in the drawer the whole time.
Anyway, the doctor then ran some thin flexible probably fiber-optic scope up my left nostril, then my right, both time inserting it far enough that I could feel it coming out my ears. Wayyyyy past the spot where I get my nosebleeds, anyway. And I only get them in one nostril. But, you know, doctors always need to look around. The scope was uncomfortable. Not painful, but not pleasant.
She determined that I had a misshapen septum and some nasal polyps, all of which contribute to my frequent mouth-breathing. I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of anybody ever going to an ENT and not being told they have a misshaped septum, which could be surgically corrected to let them breathe better. So that wasn’t a surprise. The polyps, on the other hand… meh. She said they were pretty symmetric across both nostrils, and that and other signs indicated they were probably not, you know, cancer. But she’d still like to at least get a biopsy sometime to make sure. Or maybe they should be removed, to improve breathing and sinus function. In which case they’d grow back, but if you’re lucky, it would take eight to ten years. Or maybe they should just be removed at the same time I get that septum surgery that everyone on earth seems to need.
I shrugged — with a knowledgeable shrugging air about me — quite a bit during this discussion. I mouth breathe a lot but it doesn’t bother me much and I can’t smell much of the time, which is a little worse, but I’ve also seen what the recovery from nasal surgery looks like and my personal opinion at this time is that it isn’t worth it.
On to the main event: the cauterization. I’d had a nose bleed in the middle of the night, actually, so locating the spot was a piece of cake. She cleaned and suctioned it to get off a bit of scab (I didn’t feel a thing) then started rubbing the silver nitrate matchstick on the spot. Starting from slight discomfort, this grew into a small pain, then a medium sized one, and a bit beyond that. She sprayed some more numbing stuff in there and kept going a little bit. The pain wasn’t that bad, really.
But between the scoping and the cauterization, I guess my body said “enough”. I had what might be a vasovegal episode. As she was finishing up, I started getting that shocky feeling you get — you know, like when you cut yourself deeply on the thumb or something? I’ve had this happen once before, when getting a chalazion in my eyelid incised. Next I started feeling lightheaded, a bit dizzy. The doctor made sure I was ok and had me lie back for a while. I think at its worst I might have passed out or been on the verge of it: I suddenly felt like I had been sleeping and wasn’t sure what was going on for a few seconds. As the doctor left the office to wait for me to recover, I started sweating profusely. Soon I was feeling better, not dizzy, not shocky, but the intense cold sweat lingered and soaked through the front of my shirt.
Soon that was over too, and the doctor gave me post-procedure instructions: saline spray four times a day, antibiotic ointment twice. She warned me I might have a mild sore throat as the silver nitrate tricked down. In fact, I already did. As the numbing stuff wore off, my nose felt worse and worse too. It’s been an uncomfortable four hours since then, but I think I can feel it getting better already.
Update, Dec 8, 2008:
It took longer than I expected to feel healed up from the cauterization. I was never debilitated, but my nose hurt on and off for days, and not just at the cauterization site. Instead, the pain kind of crept around the cartilage areas of the lower nostril, and I’d also get sympathetic pains in my teeth and jaw on that side. The scabs that formed inside my nose would be very annoying as well.
For a procedure that doesn’t need any pain meds, it’s pretty annoying.

19 responses so far ↓
Dalesrunner // December 30, 2008 at 6:22 am |
Hey Scott, found your site when googling nosebleeds, trails are great aren’t they, also do you do fellrunning as we do in the UK? Our copious amounts of rain helps keep things nice and muddy. Anyway, I had a nose cauterization on Sunday 28th Dec after a big bleed, tomorrow weds 31st Dec I need to run eight miles to make my target of 1,000 for the year and I am terrified it will burst open. How soon did you run after yours? Cheers.
Scott // December 30, 2008 at 8:08 am |
I ran ten miles (flat, slow and difficult if I recall correctly) just two days after the cauterization and another five the next day. I had asked my doctor if running was OK and she (actually her nurse) said yes, even the day-of, as long as I took it easy. Of course my nosebleed situation may be different than yours — I was prone to frequent smallish nosebleeds myself.
(We don’t have fell running here. I *think* that’s partly because we lack the public right-of-way laws that prevail in UK and much of Europe, and so are more limited in our choices when it comes to running routes.)
Dalesrunner // January 7, 2009 at 12:12 am |
Thanks for the advice Scott – did nine miles slow on 31/12 to meet my 2008 target without any recurrence. It still hurts a bit though, strange! Note your comment on fell-running – your restrictions may acually be quite sensible as we don’t have any dangerous wild animals any more like you do unless you count the odd mad cow so safer to stay on the trail. Final comment (I won’t take over your blog!) noticed another post on hypertension; I’ve had this since my twenties, no reason could be found despite lots of investigations, I can strongly recommend ACE inhibitor (lisinopril) which for me have no side effects, stay right away from betablockers they are the devil’s work for a runner. Hope you have a great running year in 2009.
gal // January 7, 2009 at 5:44 am |
Hi!
so the only solution my nosbleed stops is to go on a Cauterization?? is it worth it ??
Scott // January 7, 2009 at 8:14 am |
Gal,
If you see a doctor who can perform a nasal cauterization I’m sure they’ll be able to discuss other options too — some people respond well to saline sprays, or mild steroids. Cauterization was worth it for me, though.
Chris // March 1, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
Hello Scott!
I’m fourteen years of age, and I do believe I have some form of insurance. For the latest few years of my life, I’ve had frequent nose bleeds. Lately, though, I’ve had much more frequent bleeds (daily, sometimes two or three times a day.) lately. Enough with the background info, now to the question. How would I go about to an ENA (since I’m guessing a medical doctor doesn’t do nose cauterizing) for a cauterizaing?
Scott // March 1, 2009 at 7:45 pm |
Well Chris, in my case I asked my general practitioner (my main, regular doctor) about it and she referred me to an ENT. You’re right, most general doctors don’t do cauterization (although some might). But what you should do all depends on what kind of insurance you have, at least if your’re in the U.S. Some plans require a referral from a designated PCP (primary care physician), some let you see anybody you want, most provide better coverage for “in network” rather than “out of network” doctors. There are also HMO plans where you get all your heath care through the same company. You need to find out how your insurance works and go from there. Good luck.
Alex // April 12, 2009 at 10:37 am |
Thanks for writing this article, I’m 20 and have had nosebleeds every few months for as long as I can remember. They are often triggered by the slightest knock, or just start of their own accord, and pour quite badly for about 5/10 minutes, but then heal up fine. I’ve been considering getting it cauterized for a while now, but haven’t yet found a good explanation of what happens, but now I think I’m gonna go get it done. Just a few questions, have you had any bleeds since, and how long did it take it heal completely?
Thanks a lot, Alex
Scott // April 12, 2009 at 3:46 pm |
Not a single nosebleed in the four months since. In fact, I thing my nose is less stuffy in general since having it done — the irritation may have been triggering inflammation, perhaps.
I think it took between two and three weeks for it to feel completely healed.
tom Canada // May 7, 2009 at 8:49 am |
I am curious about this cauterization..stuff..
I am 60 and for years when I was in my 20s-30s I had nosebleeds at least once a week .. they gradualy went away..!
However in their place I developed a ’sensitivity’ in one nostril (just where the soft part of my nose turn to cartilage– about half way up the nostril. It happens for example when I walk past the detergents, or perfumes , etc, in a mall..
This causes instant watery eye and nose leaking.. along with a like a needle at that little spot.
I have some mild allergies also.
I wondered if this might be ’somewhat’ common?
Anyone heard of this ? And what about getting this ’spot’ nitrated ? ?
ame nielsen // May 17, 2009 at 9:43 am |
I am so glad I found your post about the silver nitrate treatment you had!! I had it done 3 days ago, and I had the exact same problems at my visit, the sweating and almost passing out and my doctor didn’t even notice!!!!!! I am having crazy pain too from my nose down my face to my teeth, I keep taking Ibuprofen but when it wears off it’s horrible!!!!!! I am glad I found your post, at least I know that what I am experiencing is normal! THANKX!!
Scott // May 17, 2009 at 1:50 pm |
Hope it feels better soon, Ame.
Ali // June 15, 2009 at 4:45 pm |
I just got my nose cauterized today and I am so glad that I found your post! I have cross country every morning and I didn’t know when I’d be able to run again. My doctor is having me keep a cotton ball with special ointment packed up my nose for 24 hours a day for one to two weeks. A bit extreme, I think. Anyways, I’m going to try to run again in two days like you did. Oh and did the silver nitrate run down your nose as well as your throat? I have a black nostril now, which is not the least bit fun when walking in public places. Hopefully it will come off in a few days. Thanks again!
Scott // June 16, 2009 at 8:36 am |
Ali — no, I didn’t have much run down my nose, and I sure didn’t get a black nostril. That sounds a little unusual, but I don’t know. Hope it heals up soon.
Tania // July 31, 2009 at 1:05 am |
hi!
i am 21 years old and i have been having nose bleeds my whole life as well. mostly small and frequent, but occassionally i spend 20mins in the bathroom with a persistant one. my mum has been telling me to get the cauterization done but i am reluctant to do it because i dont want to lose any of my sense of smell. my sight and hearing are already not the best you could wish for, so my good sense of smell is sort of important to me. Does cauterization effect your ability to smell?
Scott // July 31, 2009 at 8:00 am |
Tania, I don’t think it usually does. But the doctor would know better than me.
Mary // September 24, 2009 at 10:24 am |
I had the same silver nitrate cauterization ten days ago and yesterday got the same old nose bleed back. I had daily bleeds the week before the cauterization so I guess this is just the one bleed but Im not feeling partic. hopeful yet. I did not find it hurt me that much, not feeling dizzy or sweaty after or during it but yes I did get a black nostril from the silver nitrate. The doc said if this does not work they will have to do a second causterization but Im not going to. Im scared they will hurt my septum. I think I can live with the bleeds !!
Veronica // October 6, 2009 at 9:42 pm |
Mary did your black nostril go away? I had the cauterization done with the silver nitrate and had the same experience as Scott. After the 4th stick I felt the stinging in my nose and my eye started to water. I said to the doctor it hurts now and he did the 5th stick of silver nitrate and stopped. The doctor checked my nose and numb it a little more. I just sat on the chair for a good five minutes after the procedure and got up to head out of the doctor’s office. The numbness began to wear off and the pain began. I bought Tylenol, the nasal saline spray and saline gel. I hope to heal soon and that the nosebleeds are gone for good.
Erica // October 7, 2009 at 12:00 pm |
Two weeks ago I started having random nose bleeds. I suffered with nosebleeds as a child, but haven’t had one since I was a teenager. I went to the ENT today and they did the cauterization procedure using the silver nitrate. He stated I have a blood vessel that has surfaced and burst probably do to a sinus infection. I have been home now for about 3hrs and the numbing stuff has long worn off and I’m in a lot of pain. Right now the pain around my gum and teeth area feel worse than the nose pain. I was advised to pack my nostril with Neosporin 3 times a day for a month and was given some antibiotics to take to make sure all the infection is gone. I’m hoping this pain doesn’t last like this for too many days because I feel awful right now.